Curse

Sir Tidus · Mar 11, 2008, 03:48 AM // 03:48

Right now, lion's comfort completely owns everything else. You can almost heal none stop with it. I don't see how u can kill someone using for great justice and lion's comfort at the same time. 20 seconds of invincibility. Do you guys agree or disagree?

TheLordOfBlah · Mar 11, 2008, 03:51 AM // 03:51

didnt they just add a recharge to it?

Sir Tidus · Mar 11, 2008, 03:51 AM // 03:51

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Originally Posted by TheLordOfBlah

didnt they just add a recharge to it?

Yes, but only 1 second.

the kurzick eater · Mar 11, 2008, 03:51 AM // 03:51

i dont think it is invincibility.. but yes it is amazing ^^ ive been seeing it run in high end GvG to releive pressure off the frontline and it does wonders--not sure if its worth the skill slot for a self heal, but definately helpful in splits

MisterB · Mar 11, 2008, 03:52 AM // 03:52

It's not invincibility, no. It's a decent self heal and adrenaline gain skill.

Numa Pompilius · Mar 11, 2008, 03:53 AM // 03:53

Blind or block or evade = no more Lions Comfort.
Not my idea of invincibility.

Winterclaw · Mar 11, 2008, 03:55 AM // 03:55

Blind - go /mo or /p for condition removal
block - switch targets
evade - switch targets or snare... not as much of a problem for a warrior than a ranged class.

the kurzick eater · Mar 11, 2008, 03:57 AM // 03:57

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Originally Posted by Winterclaw

Blind - go /mo or /p for condition removal
block - switch targets
evade - switch targets or snare... not as much of a problem for a warrior than a ranged class.

what kind of warrior do you use that uses ranged attacks anyways

Sir Tidus · Mar 11, 2008, 03:57 AM // 03:57

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Originally Posted by the kurzick eater

not sure if its worth the skill slot for a self heal, but definately helpful in splits

What do you mean not worth the skill slot? If you have 12 strength, and you are using for great justice, then you will heal 49 heal per second for 20 seconds straight and gaining adrenaline the whole time. That's like having a 25 health regeneration. Wouldn't that be an invincible tank? If you have 13 strength, then you don't even need for great justice, the skill will recharge it's own adrenaline since in 2 seconds you will already have gained at least one more adrenaline from attack or damage.

Sirius-NZ · Mar 11, 2008, 03:58 AM // 03:58

Can only put one through every two seconds even with that (1s activate + 1s recharge). It's perfectly possible to put out more than 50 DPS on a character with a concerted effort (actually, I have Dervish and even Warrior builds that will do more than that solo). The other thing is, somebody using this skill constantly is for obvious reasons out of commission for anything else.

Finally, you can still dshot/dchop it, and that'll take it away for more than enough time to kill the user.

Master Knightfall · Mar 11, 2008, 03:58 AM // 03:58

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Nuff said easily countered quit QQing just because you got beat.

Operative 14 · Mar 11, 2008, 04:00 AM // 04:00

I use Healing Signet and Lions Comfort together and I've had no complaints. Well, I have, but only from guildies that I scrimmage with.

Lions comfort is probably my favorite skill for a Warrior, it is pretty well balanced between attributes for what it actually does. It's better than Healing Signet, and it recharges fairly quickly in a fight as well.

Winterclaw · Mar 11, 2008, 04:06 AM // 04:06

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Originally Posted by the kurzick eater

what kind of warrior do you use that uses ranged attacks anyways

I can only guess he is going /p to chuck spears.

Sir Tidus · Mar 11, 2008, 04:09 AM // 04:09

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Originally Posted by Sirius-NZ

Can only put one through every two seconds even with that (1s activate + 1s recharge). It's perfectly possible to put out more than 50 DPS on a character with a concerted effort (actually, I have Dervish and even Warrior builds that will do more than that solo). The other thing is, somebody using this skill constantly is for obvious reasons out of commission for anything else.

Finally, you can still dshot/dchop it, and that'll take it away for more than enough time to kill the user.

Yes but not more than 50 DPS for 20 seconds straight. Or if your opponent has 13 or more strength, you have to overcome 50 DPS the whole entire time you are trying to kill him. Plus, it's hard to interrupt a 1 second skill? I'm just saying that it's really good for tanking. Though I know if you tank like that, you'll do no damage at all.

Sirius-NZ · Mar 11, 2008, 04:10 AM // 04:10

Actually, yes, "you can't gain adrenaline" hexes will shut down warriors and paragons in general, not just this skill. So I can pretty easily see Mesmers taking that.

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Originally Posted by Sir Tidus

Yes but not more than 50 DPS for 20 seconds straight. Or if your opponent has 13 or more strength, you have to overcome 50 DPS the whole entire time you are trying to kill him. Plus, it's hard to interrupt a 1 second skill? I'm just saying that it's really good for tanking. Though I know if you tank like that, you'll do no damage at all.

Yes, more than 50 DPS for 20 seconds straight. I have a Dragon Slash build that will last exactly as long, and hits for around 50-60 damage more than once a second. Additionally, Lyssa builds will rip a chain skill-activating trick like that to pieces, and can keep going for 20 seconds no problem (though it probably won't take that long).

I'm not trying to argue it isn't a good skill. It quite obviously is, and makes an excellent companion skill in a Dragon Slash build, actually. But it won't make you invincible.

Sir Tidus · Mar 11, 2008, 04:11 AM // 04:11

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Originally Posted by Operative 14

I use Healing Signet and Lions Comfort together and I've had no complaints. Well, I have, but only from guildies that I scrimmage with.

Lions comfort is probably my favorite skill for a Warrior, it is pretty well balanced between attributes for what it actually does. It's better than Healing Signet, and it recharges fairly quickly in a fight as well.

Unless you use shield stance or gladiator's defense, healing signet is really bad.

Racthoh · Mar 11, 2008, 04:25 AM // 04:25

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Originally Posted by Sir Tidus

If you have 13 strength, then you don't even need for great justice, the skill will recharge it's own adrenaline since in 2 seconds you will already have gained at least one more adrenaline from attack or damage

It has a 1 second recharge, meaning you have to hit twice to recharge it with FGJ and 4 times without it.

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Plus, it's hard to interrupt a 1 second skill?

Maybe with really, really, really, really bad ping.

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I'm just saying, though I know if you tank like that, you'll do no damage at all.

You'll do no damage, so a waste of a warrior slot.

Sir Tidus · Mar 11, 2008, 04:31 AM // 04:31

[QUOTE=Racthoh]It has a 1 second recharge, meaning you have to hit twice to recharge it with FGJ and 4 times without it.

No, read the skill description, you gain 2 strikes of adrenaline at level 12 strength, and 3 at level 13 strength. And you can gain adrenaline during the casting time too I think. So 2 seconds to gain 1 adrenaline or if u use FGJ then you don't need any at all.

Sirius-NZ · Mar 11, 2008, 04:33 AM // 04:33

...actually, yes, the recharge is a fairly big deal. If it's reduced to some tiny number like 0.5 seconds, from memory it can gain adrenaline from its own activation, but I think 1 second is actually too long.

Furthermore, interrupting a 1 second skill can be tricky with a bad ping (which I have) and the element of surprise, but if the target is actually chaining a skill it's pretty easy to get your timing right.

Symbol · Mar 11, 2008, 04:34 AM // 04:34

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No, read the skill description, you gain 2 strikes of adrenaline at level 12 strength, and 3 at level 13 strength. And you can gain adrenaline during the casting time too I think. So 2 seconds to gain 1 adrenaline or if u use FGJ then you don't need any at all.

You don't understand how adrenaline works. Recharge removes adren from the skill. As such LC can't charge itself.